Category: Internet Lending

  • Banks and Payday Loans

    Minneapolis-based U.S. Bancorp, Wells Fargo & Co. of San Francisco, and Fifth Third Bancorp of Cincinnati — are now marketing payday loan type products, with triple-digit interest rates, to their checking account customers.

    “Banks are in a strong position to steal a big chunk of the $35 billion-a-year payday lending market — with its estimated $7.3 billion in fees from borrowers, say industry analysts.”

    The banks are charging $10 per $100. These fees claim to be half (for the record, they’re not) of what a typical payday lender would charge. They estimate the typical payday lender charges about $17 per $100. Banks fees should be lower. They incur less risk than traditional payday lenders. Banks own the checking accounts and may additionally run credit reports for approval. Of course, they will have lower delinquencies due to smaller risk pool and full access to the borrowers checking account for collections.

    When banks offer payday loans, the “on the fence” general public will start to accept the payday loan product. Let’s face it, the industry is never going to change a self righteous, bleeding heart liberals’ mind. All we can do is go after the middle 80%.

    The only issue I have today is that banks don’t operate under state law. They can offer payday loans in the 15 “black out” states like New York, New Jersey, North Carolina, Georgia, Arkansas among them. These states should open their doors. It’s discrimination, otherwise.

    I think the industry should use this as a sounding board. Let the banks offer payday loans. Let anyone offer cash advances.

    You can read the full article in Minneapolis Star Tribune titled “Biggest Banks Stepping into the Payday Loan Arena“.

  • Major Internet lending ruling handed down in Pennsylvania

    The state of Pennsylvania ruled 4-3 against Cash Net USA. I smell an appeal.

    What’s interesting is Cash Net USA’s defense, which I think is very clever. Attornies for Cash Net USA argued:

    Pennsylvania’s 72-year-old banking regulations could not anticipate the advent of the Internet, and thus make no mention of out-of-state lenders.

    You can read the full article in Pittsburgh Post Gazette.

  • Atleast $70k fraudulent Internet loans

    “A temporary employee for AT&T was arrested today on charges she stole personal information on 2,100 co-workers and then pocketed more than $70,000 by taking out short-term payday loans in the names of 130 of them.”

    That’s pretty scary. I wonder what the lenders could have done differently. Didn’t they realize that all the money was going into just a few accounts?

    I think matching a person’s name with a bank account is a great service. Can anyone recommend one?

    You can read the full article in Chicago Breaking News.

  • Talk about a judgemental article

    A dollar today is worth less than a dollar tomorrow. The big question is “How much?”. The answer is context. How bad do you need that dollar?

    I think this article is extremely judgmental. It completely lambastes an internet lender. The writer should find a way to help the people that use this product and still squeak out a profit.

    What’s remarkable is that it’s in Business Week.

  • Online Loan Sharks Trap People Into Debt — Then Disappear


    Ok. Let’s get past the bullshit title of this blog post in the Huffington Post.

    Online payday lending is a completely different ball game. Most of the websites are lead generation companies. OLA has to become more transparent, if they want to be effective. I’m sure lenders do not want to advertise this way b/c it puts a big bull’s eye on their foreheads and makes them open to class action lawsuits.

    See this post about an Internet lender that settled a law suit in Wisconsin and what Nevada is doing about it here: http://pdlindustry.blogspot.com/2009/02/internet-lender-hit-with-60k-class.html and http://pdlindustry.blogspot.com/2009/02/nevada-intenet-lenders-under-fire.html.

    The reality is that there are a lot of off-shore internet lenders making a lot of money. They’re never going to stop, so you might as well allow payday loans here where we can regulate them. This issue is a lot like the offshore gambling.

    The reality is that the product has a huge demand. The numbers do not lie. Regulate it but don’t put lenders out of business b/c people will just go to offshore companies for a loan. While their at it, why not encourage store fronts. These lenders are all licensed and more accountable.

    If anyone has an idea to identify lenders that are licensed and regulated online, I’ll do it. I’ll even put them on my website.
    Read the Article at HuffingtonPost

  • Payday lenders and Indian Tribes

    John Nyhan, a California attorney for two Indian tribes told the newspaper that the lenders “have immunity” from state laws.  

    West Virginia does not agree.  “A suit in West Virginia settled last fall closed the accounts of nearly 1,000 customers and reached agreements with lenders affiliated with the Miami and Modoc tribes of Oklahoma and the Santee Sioux of Nebraska. The settlement included agreements the businesses cease doing business in West Virginia.”
    You can read the full article by United Press here.
    I guess the big question is, if you’re an Internet lender should you get involved with a Native American Indian tribe?
  • West Virginia is Insane

    Here’s what the West Virginia state’s attorney had to say about payday lending in the Times West Virginia:

    “It’s a very very shadowy industry, and it operates very much off the grid. The only answer to payday lending is to ban it.”

    Talk about taking the moral high ground.

    Now, payday loans are illegal in West Virginia and lenders should respect that; but I don’t think the DA, acting as a voice of the state, is right. He should just stick to “It’s illegal in West Viriginia.”

    The Internet companies being accused of either making or collecting Internet payday loans in West Virginia are Cash Advance Now, Debt Doctor, Direct ROI, E Smart Credit Network, Island Payday, Platinum Finance payday business, Sonic Cash, A.C.A. Recovery, Capital Collections, Covenant Management Group, Oasis Financial Solutions and Westbury Ventures.

    The state has been successful in driving Internet lenders out. For example, Wisconsin just recently settled a class action law suit against and Internet lender. You can read the post here.

  • The brains behind Cash Net USA

    Cash Net USA is the largest online payday lender. Crain’s magazine highlights the Subprime Millionaire, Al Goldstein. It looks like Al is hanging up the online payday business to become a landlord.

    Mr. Goldstein is reportedly going walk away with $70M at the age of 28 after paying out his investors. Considering that Cash Net USA started in 2004, it does not make a lot of sense. That would have made Al fifteen at the time. If this is the case, it’s even more impressive, but these facts do not line up because he also worked on Wallstreet for a breif stint.

    Regardless, for the PDL Industry, it does not get any better than Mr. Goldstein’s story.

    I’ve also included an interview done by Mr. Goldstein by BizTech Magazine. He pretty much attributes all his success to their superior technology.

    I like his advice:

    Every single mistake that we’ve made — not only in IT but companywide — always has to do with being shortsighted, whether it’s not spending the right dollars, or making a decision that will only last for a month because it’s easy today but then you have to spend twice as much or three times as much money down the road.

  • State governments start to notice online payday lenders

    There is no doubt that there are lots of Internet payday loans being processed everyday. State governments are starting to notice. They want Internet lenders to follow the same rules as brick and mortar lenders in their state. Most states have already adopted this stance, but it’s worth mentioning when it’s in the news.

    The most recent state to bring this up is Idaho. A Senate committee has agreed to consider a bill that would require licenses for online payday lenders.

  • Internet Lender hit with $60k class action suit

    Tremont Financial settled a class action law suit for $60k. The state of Wisconsin alleges that the company’s loan contracts violated certain provisions of the Wisconsin Consumer Act. Each borrower that paid them will get $329.81 and they will forgive all the debt for their other outstanding loans.

    Now, I’m pretty sure Tremont is an internet lender b/c I found their site here. Maybe they were doing loans in Wisconsin without a license, but originating them in South Dakota.

    I would love to know if they get their original principal back? If you know anything, please leave a comment.